Tuesday, April 24, 2007

DESIGN OPTIONS... Is it just me? Or do you guess what to include?

The following is just another thought i had during a frustrated moment, while trying to add an object to a Design Option. I know for reasons like this many professionals hate Hosted Families, but i believe they are there for a reason, and love them. They make moving walls and the like very easy. They KILL me, however, when i need to insert a wall in to a design option. The same is true for Wall Sweeps, etc. What do you think? read on...

Design Options - Wonderfully powerful tool! I use them all of the time, for showing my clients different variations of facades for Retail work.
One thing i would LOVE to see chnged (as it would save me literally hours), is being able to place elements in an Option, which host elements int he main model. I understand why we cant (i could delete it in the option...), so maybe if i TRY to place it in an option, instead of telling me i cant, it should ask "do you want to place all hosted objects in the option as well?"
This would save me HOURS. I use a lot of Hosted objects(wall hosted families, wall sweeps, walls attached to roofs (top or base), and while i love design options, they are sometimes lengthy (time wise) to initiate, because i have to guess and be sure to get anything with a relationship to an object, or it will not go in to the Option.
I have 2 window awnings that MIGHT have to be deleted, so i want them in the Options right now. They are wall hosted. So i cannot insert them without getting the wall as well, which means the wall sweep (Cornice and base) which is continuous around the building. That means needing all 4 walls, with all 30 doors, every wall mounted light (in between all the doors), etc.
In the end, because i cannot mentally track which items i need to grab, i will end up simply deleting the awnings, and putting them back later.
An option to automatically "would you like to include all related hosted elements?" would save me hours, and able me to use this tool with the utmost in efficiency, something i already love about the Program. :)


aaron said...

Hmmm. . . doesn't it already work this way (sort of)? If you add only the wall to the option, the doors windows and sweeps go with it, weather you've selected them or not. Other hosted elements (casework or plumbing) seem to be able to be included in the option independent of the option status of their host.

Malleristic-Revitation said...

Interesting, maybe its only certain objects.

Wall sweeps, for instance: It DOES add the wall sweep to the Option, but the wall sweep may be continuous around all 4 walls of a sqaure building. In this case, it tells you "Element in a Design Option cannot be hosted by object in main model" (one of the other walls...)

Doors and windows seem to work the way you described though.

I just tried a little test with Wall Hosted Families, and they act differently: It appears if the Wall Hosted family Cuts in to the wall, they get added automatically with the wall. If they do not, they dont get added, but it lets you do it even though the object in the main model (family) is hosted by an object in the option (wall).

Fascinating... Knowing that would have solved my initial problem, as i only wanted to add a wall hosted family so i could remove it in one option.

Still, i wish instead of forcing you to hit "cancel" there was an option to add whatever objects are hosting or hosted, that are causing the conflict.